properly calibrated to say, you know, let us protect the entrepreneur who made all this digitization possible. but, you know, that entrepreneur's working in the public domain. readers, people who want to share information, and, you know, that's important. and i think it may have been, you know, that was one of the things i had in my mind when i said, you know, the entrepreneurs are well represented, authors are well represented, but we really to need to think about that public domain and all of that -- all that that represents. any more questions? oh, wait. >> i have a question. since attachments and e-mail and digital, if you send a document to an agent or a publisher or something, especially one that's not well known, so is it more

dangerous for somebody to grab your work now or before so many digital applications? >> i don't think, you know, there's -- i don't really think there's a danger in sending manuscript to an agent. you know, that is, no incentive for the agent to steal. there's also, you know, it's an easy problem to remedy and somebody who would steal in a circumstance like that would absolutely just be in bad faith. they deserve all those copyright penalties we can, you know, bring down on them. i think, you know, and you really don't see people bringing claims about, you know, forwarding e-mails and things like that. it's just the notion that we've got to set a -- we have got a

set of rules that we violate every single day of our lives, and that just doesn't make sense because threat is out there. you know, the chances that somebody would complain about an image in a presentation at a book, you know, literary festival are small. finish but the consequences are dire. litigation's expensive. and why, you know, why have the uncertainty. so, you know, it affects what we do, and it's a form of censorship because really the pathetic thing is that you could, anybody with a smartphone can google star trek and see exactly what i'm talking about. but i can't put be it up here. it doesn't make sense. thank you so much. [applause]

>> you're watching booktv on c-span2. 48 hours of nonfiction authors and book withs every weekend -- books every weekend. interested in american history? watch american history television on c-span3. every weekend, 48 hours of people and events that help document the american story. visit c-span.org/history for more information. >> here's a look at some books that are being published this week. c-span's latest book recounts over two decades of interviews on subjects ranging from politics to social issues and history in "sundays at eight."

>> look for these titles in

bookstores this coming week and watch for the authors in the near future on booktv and on booktv.org. >> you're watching booktv on c-span2. here's a look at our prime time lineup for tonight. coming up at 7 eastern, michelle gillespie discusses her biography of r.j. reynolds, founder of the tobacco company, and his wife katherine. then at 7:45 eastern, max brooks recounts the first african-american regiment to fight in world war i, the 369th known as the harlem hell fighters. at 8:45 p.m. eastern, michael malice looks at the continued influence of the late korean leader, kim jung-il. at 10 p.m. on "after words," patrick tucker studies how technology is changing the future. and we conclude at 11 ian with richard vigueri and his examination of the split in the republican party over the size

of the federal government. that all happens tonight on c-span2's booktv. >> booktv of covers hundreds of author programs throughout the country all year long. here's a look at some of the events we'llattending this week. look for these -- we'll be attending this week. look for these programs in the near future on booktv on c-span2. on tuesday we're in princeton, new jersey, for the recount of w.e.b. dubois' time as a student at the university of berlin. he'll speak with koh knell west -- cornell west of princeton university. that same day we're at book passage bookstore in california as steven pressman recalls the efforts of gilbert and eleanor krause to rescue 50 jewish children from nazi-controlled vienna in 1939. then on wednesday ralph nader speaks at politics & prose bookstore in washington d.c. he argues an alliance is emerging between progressives,

conservatives and libertarians to fight against the power of corporations. that's a look at some of the author programs booktv will be covering this upcoming week. for more, go to our web site, booktv.org and visit "upcoming programs." >> you're watching booktv. up next, caroline glick argue that is the u.s. pursuit of a two-state solution to the israel/palestine conflict has failed miserably and is based on palestinian claims to land that are unfounded. this is just over an hour. [applause] be. >> we live in surreal times. it's my privilege and pleasure today to introwith deuce a remarkable woman who has written an extraordinary -- to introduce a remarkable woman who has written an extraordinary book. i'm going to let caroline explain why this should be so.

but in order to understand the magnitude of the task she has undertaken and the difficulties her solution will encounter, you have to remind yourself first of the surreal nature of the times we live in. we're not long emerged from a 50-year cold war which began when the soviet empire swallowed eastern europe and the baltic states and ended only when the united states undertook a vast rearmament and applied enough pressure over enough time to bankrupt the communist system and force its withdrawal from the occupation. the russian successor to that empire has just swallowed one of its lost treasures, a sovereign domain in eastern europe. the response of our commander in chief, barack obama, has been to wag his finger and lecture the russian conquerors at the times

of conquest have actually passed. we are all modern people now live inning the 21st century -- living in the 21st century, and we just don't do things that way. not surprisingly, obama's lecture made little or made no impression on putin or his apparent appetite for crimea. russia is, in fact, a second rate power and could have easily been dissuaded from this adventure. but because barack obama is such an embarrassingly weak with leader and untrustworthy ally, putin was able to laugh in his face, mass 100,000 troops on the ukrainian border and prepare to swallow ukraine itself. leader of the free world today is a man who does not believe in the free world. or in america's role as its head. [applause] in the five years since the

norwegian committee gave him a nobel prize for nothing, obama's policies of weakness and appeasement have made the world far more dangerous place than it has been since the end of the cold war and probably its beginning. from his first day in office, obama made it clear that he regards america as having wronged its adversaries, and its adversaries as having grievances that are justified; a view suspiciously or perilously close to putin's own. by now it should be apparent that america's president is a determined enabler of america's enemies and equally determined betrayer of her friends. in the five years since he took office, obama has lost the war in iraq, withdrawing the military presence that thousands of americans gave their lives to secure while turning that beknighted nation over to iran.

he has lost the war in afghanistan by announcing his intention to lose it in advance and by forcing our troops to fight under rules of engagement that tie their hands and got them killed. he has lost libya by conducting a unilateral, unauthorized and illegal aggression against an american ally, murdering its leader and turning its streets other to mobs of terrorists -- over to mobs of terrorists. in the course of these betrayals, obama has violated every single principle he invoked as a senator to justify his subversive attacks on george bush's war in iraq. ..

>> obama support for the brotherhood has not only crossover toy egyptian allies, but open the door for imperial russia will to replace it is the great power influences the region. on top of these betrayals, obama has systematically appeased america's most deadly enemy in the region, the terrorist regime in iran. and particularly conspired to ensure that those have sworn to wipe america and israel from the earth to acquire nuclear weapons.

while giving aid and comfort, obama has turned his back on the only democracy in the middle east, and america's most faithful and important allies. he has thrown enormous weight behind those whose goal has been stated to old obliterate this and push the jews into the sea. her 66 years the palestinian proxies have conducted an unprovoked or of aggression against jews. the palestinian cause is explicitly an overtly genocidal. the destruction of the state of israel and the cleansing of the entire world of this. the palestinians have advanced their cause as israel occupies the arab lands. in fact it was created on land a belong to the turkish empire for 400 years. american indians have a greater claim on the united states than

the arabs do on the state of israel. the palestinian cause itself was inspired by islamic not these and was founded by the criminal individual who served hiller in berlin. it was awarded in this way. yet obama has thrown the full weight of his presidency behind the evil and supported the palestinian demands that israel retreat to its borders, which would make their genocidal goal far easier to accomplish. he has demanded that the jews stop building homes for themselves and at the same time he has turned a blind eye toward all palestinian leaders that the palestinians but control. he had acquiesced with the

situation. israel's wilson is called the pe process. an american president provides those with the time and space required to acquire nuclear weapons, and when we are so constructed with a rational assessment of the situation, it has become almost impossible for a reasonable proposal to improve it, difficult to formulate. this is the context. the context that our speaker has answered with just such an assessment of the problem and proposal for a solution. caroline glick is the new head of the israeli security project

of the david horlick center. she has written a book which displays all of the intellectual and moral qualities that causes senate to hire her and make us proud to call her a colleague. caroline glick is the senior editor of the jerusalem post and a distinct observer of the affairs writing today. readers of her columns will already be familiar with her intelligence and command of the facts on the ground. it is that it allows her to deal with it while not being sucked into exclusions. the israeli solution is a remarkable book and steers readers between moral outrage that threatens those with a

modicum of moral decency. and the lunacy that threatens to swallow anyone when the arabs and americans are talking about peace in the middle east rather than the destruction of the jewish state. we are so thrilled and honored to have caroline here and we know that you will be enlightened to hear what she has to say. [applause] [applause] [applause] >> thank you very much, david. that was very nice.

thank you all for coming. thank you for coming to hear me talk about my new book. and as david said i wrote it in a historical context. especially in the western world where we have chosen to believe in the use rather than craft our policies. so just to give you an idea before we dive into the book, a sense of how out of control the reality has become as a result of the delusional view of reality, i want to recall if you very reason stories and i could add one that i just got today in

the morning that i am just going to start. it's something that happened two weeks ago at the national university and a professor by the name of alan johnson came to the campus speak against the resolution of the student government to boycott the sanctions and israel and wage economic warfare against jewish state in a discriminatory manner against the jewish businesses. so alan johnson came to speak and he was shouted down by extremely violent protesters who cursed him in the most vile fashion and demanded that he be at alternative us immediately. and then we saw the one the resolution was rejected by the government, one of the members of the panel broke down and started crying in a seemingly

mad fashion. her life had just been this way by the fact that the university of california los angeles decided not to wage economic warfare against the jews. so yesterday i got an e-mail from tammy benjamin. he was here in california and has been fighting anti-semitism at the university of california campuses. and she discussed a recent hearing that was held before leaders and administrators of the university of california about the anti-semitism the jews on college campuses here suffer. and she read the testimony of a couple of the urban before that panel. the one was in her of science major at use the l.a. and said that we constantly hear the term zionist used as a dirty

word, a historically oppressed minority in its homeland, something to be ashamed of. and so when i was watching that woman at ucla breakdown and have a nervous breakdown after her university decided not to do something about things that are hateful and not the light, something sort of cooked inside. i looked at her and i realized that she is absolutely convinced that israel is not see germany. she thinks that tolerating the pro-israel voices like alan and or others at ucla, is to cater to evil. it is to collaborate with the not these. she looks at the jews and non-jews who support the jewish state. and she sees them in this way.

in order to do this, she has to know nothing about not these are history or anything. but the state of higher education has allowed this kind of delusion to take hold and dominate the discourse. israel is considered not see germany and in order to believe that you have to not know about anything at all. it has happened in human history. but again this is a state of higher education throughout the western world. so the question is how did we get here. how did it come to be there today at the university of michigan, the university government administration is siding with open anti-semites who gave death threats to the students and called them names because they voted for this resolution in the student government and the university administration demanded that they take a revote right away.

under the gun literally to pass this resolution at the university of michigan. how did we get to this point? there are a lot of reason and the work that the center does in explaining what is happening is essential to understand. i would like to look at it from an israeli perspective. twenty years ago this would not have had been on college campuses. in 1993, i graduated in 1991 and this was the capital with the individual on the faculty. despite that, this never would've happened 22 years ago when i graduated. but it's happening all over the country today. so how has the status of israel and those on campus deteriorated to this in the past two decades? i submit to you that the answer is the peace process. the peace process that israel undertook in 1993 that is a

central cause of the legitimization of anti-semitism in the western world. so why is that not. >> thank you. >> the reason is because the peace process with the palestinian organization and the architect of modern terrorism is raised upon certain assumptions that are in this matter. the two state solution is based on the proposition that all or most of the violence emanating from the region in coming to the united states whether 9/11 or any other time of day is due to the absence of a palace tinian state. so in 2010 president clinton said that the creation of a palestinian state would take about half the impetus in the whole world. not just region, but the whole world and it would have more impact than anything else that

could be done. so here is a former president and i daresay that condoleezza rice and others felt the exact same way that hillary clinton feels. we see this day in and day out. president obama and john kerry believe the same thing about this. it is bipartisan. they believe that the source of instability, the pathology of the muslim world is due to the palestinian state and once this is created we will have heaven on earth and we will see nirvana. in a terrorism and she hot and misogyny. everything will be fine and unicorns will come and dance. all we need is a palestinian individual singh who is responsible for the according to the paradigm. so it those grubby jews will not give up enough territory to satisfy this, they are responsible for this not only in

the region but throughout the world. if they would stop allowing jews to build in samaria and jerusalem. stop respecting jewish property right in these areas. and give the lock stock and barrel to palestinian terrorist, then everything would be fine. that is why you can see americans policy waiver. as you can see them getting bent out of shape when the israeli government allows 200,000 units to be built. and this is why. this is the problem that is causing every other problem in obvious lead the worst people in the entire world are the israeli

right-wingers that says that we should be allowed to build. they are the ones who have to be sold as often as possible until they are shunned by the israeli society worldwide. and i submit to you that they have hamstrung at and it cannot truly defend itself. so the moment that they accepted this notion but to make peace with the palestinians who have to give this to his minions, they disarm themselves from a rhetorical perspective and can no longer defend itself. so instead of saying that you are carrot, you have no right, you don't care about national self-determination, all you want is to destroy israel, you can't do that. so the israelis talk about defense and what an open and pluralistic society we have. we talk about that we are

technology worldwide and the only liberal democracy and we have equal rights in israel. all of the religious groups have been. so we talk about these things and for that woman in ucla and the protesters and the rioters and anti-somatic haters and violence, none of this matters, they couldn't care less. they are sitting on someone else's land. so what do you care that we need security and that you have a liberal democracy. they are treated well as opposed to the cities like they are in this way. we don't care about any of that. you are the problem, who you are, what you do, we don't care.

we know that you are the problem. and we hate you for it. and we hate everyone who likes you for it. it doesn't matter that you're right when i were creative or that you are entrepreneurs. we hate you because we suffer because of you. and if you want peace, they say get out of their land. we hear this time after time. we just leave it to the defenders because you have no right to defend. because you're sitting on someone else's land. then we have to worry about terrorism and taking off our shoes at the airport. and that is essentially what is happening. so as long as it remains in this paradigm, none of it is effective. so nothing that we say is effective and that is how you have people that truly believe that we are not. so how do we fix this from the perspective of people who want

to be able to defend themselves. so i say and the argument that was my impetus for writing and is that as long as you're not asserting your rights you have no legitimate need. [applause] >> dare not the settlement. they are a sovereign jewish state and we're there with legitimacy. and according to the international law the reason why all of this is important is because if you are not thereby the rights, then we have no right to be there. so if we can't assert these things, we are losing them. we are losing the battle not on the settlement block or whatever you want to call it. we are losing our rights to tel

aviv in the gallery. because it is from the enemy's perspective and this is not a jewish settlement products. we want to economically boycott the products and even now and then they say i want to boycott this economy. so that within six months there is no distinction. so then we have to assert our rights. so what does that mean? so as i explain in my book and chapter 12. our international legal rights are stronger than so many other peoples as david has said.

and then the jordanians illegally occupy them in 1949 and held them into my config to seven. but the postwar determination took place in 1922. send it along to them alone. and that the determination mandated the has never been superseded or aggregated. it was never advocated to anyone out in this includes the international legitimacy. there is no legal basis for this and it claims self-determination is a claim. the you can fulfill the right to self-determination and a number of ways. and by the way they had self-determination for the past 20 years. so at any rate the main thing that everyone says that we can't

do is based upon demography. saying that they are about to outnumber the jews and there will be more arabs than jews and all they will need is this to destroy it. so that is another lie. there's a hero right in this room and his name is bennett zimmerman. stand up for second, my friend. okay, i talked about him in my book. i think you told me that he is on vacation with buddies in israel near driving through on their way of life. and we talked about, where are the people in the palestinians and everyone is talking about, multiplying. but they weren't there. so he got together with a bunch of people who understood how to

count. and so they look. what happened was the palestinian authority put out a census. and it was interesting because why they were conducting this, the head of their statistical census bureau said to "the new york times" that the census was going to be a demographic. so how could this be a part of this. how could statistical data be the equivalent of this. well, we found out when it was published. because what they did was falsify data on a massive scale

as is shown. the increased artificially the number of palestinians by 50%. and then everybody swallowed it whole instead of checking the data which is completely out of whack with the israeli civil administration through 1996. it also was extrapolated from the birthrights that appear throughout the world with mass immigration. it worked out that the entire islamic world beginning in 2000 began a demographic collapse. so we see for instance in 1979 women were having a children on

average. and today they have 1.7. so they have this in iran. and these are the numbers that are going on in saudi arabia, egypt, every country in the arab world and also among the palace indians. and it says it's a consequence of women on the one hand. and this is throughout the islamic world. it was put out last year showing that the collapse has no equal in the history of demographic data. this has never been seen before, but they have been following this overall trend. so they had about 4.5 children and today they have less than three children per woman. at the same time they have decided to go forth and multiply. so that we see a rise in the number of children from two over

three in the past 15 years. so it's really women are actually today having more children than palestinian women and what we are seeing right due in large part both east and west and on the palestinian side you are seeing just a hemorrhage of immigration. year after year year in year out. so many say they would like to immigrate if they could. it is an enormous thing and everybody is ignoring it, is determined and preordained already. but israel is going to lose its jewish majority five minutes from now. five minutes from. and then you all have to be cleared and as a result we have to enable the establishment with

the eternal capital. so because every minute that we wait to listen to president obama, we are finding our own death warrant due to demography completely based on falsified data to bennett zimmerman and we know that. so their initial study came out in 2005 and i would say that it took about five or six years for the reality of the situation and the falsification of data to start proclaiming. but today because it is known by most israelis that the democracy is stopped in the data that the americans in particular key propagating, you have 59% of israeli jews say that we have two bills submitted by members

of the coalition calling for this on the one hand, the application to the settlement blocs. so we are talking already about those initiatives that are being blocked because of the administration that would otherwise be passed. calling for this already to some 60% and this is actually the most active policy that we are having in israel today. and how much we should apply the israeli lockyer. this includes the former ambassador to the united states from samaria. but i daresay that he is not talking about leaving lock stock and barrel as we did from gaza with such tremendous results in

2005. by unnamed sources for the past nine years. so he is also talking about doing this while applying this so even on the left there is a view that we should do it unilaterally but we have to apply it to all or part of samaria. so behind the two state formulae, they are dead in a state of their own rather than continuing to be dedicated to the violation of the jewish state which has percolated throughout society as well as the notion that the demographic threat has been discredited as an existential threat to israel. i just want one more word about demography before i turn to the western of america.

so when we talk about the demographics we have to understand the true demographic threat to israel is the establishment of the palestinian. so parenthetically i haven't mentioned this. and this includes they would be afforded permanent residency status as an this includes those that we have the right to apply for israeli citizenship you can under such a scenario women know longer have the ability to defend the borders. the borders are truncated and the people who would be a part of the jordan valley and eastern

approach to israel will be palestinian to. and they would have the right to determine immigration policy. so forgetting for a second that demand a 5 million foreign arabs were allowed to immigrate. >> and this includes what would be their intentions and we're talking about millions of arabs who have been living in refugee camps that are controlled by al qaeda and hezbollah and hamas. and they would be coming into the west bank of the jordan river and into jerusalem that would be a partitioned city. would they be sitting quietly? what they say are we really want to do is look for work? of course not.

their intention was not be to split at a defensible border. but to the contrary, that is the existential threat to the demographics many fast. that is the demographic threat to israel. so i just want to briefly talk about the united states and what this means for america. david gave a very good tourist view of the world as an american, seeing the collapse of american power throughout the world as a result of the current administration and their misguided one of the witches of raised on the proposition that one should be good once enemies adapt one's friends. so as i show in my book, it has been a bipartisan solution of the administration since nixon that the way forward is to

moderate this. the plo that arafat ordered of the first african-american u.s. ambassador in sudan in 1970. together with his deputy chief of staff charged this and was assassinated by the terrorists. and so essential in my book the u.s. response to that was to cut a deal to turn a blind eye so long as they limited their operations to jewish targets. and so that worked out in this way. the italians also had the same deal and the idea constantly in the back of the minds of u.s. administrations on both sides of the partisan divide was that so long as the plo maintained or eliminated its terrorist attack the jews, it was modern and they were somehow distinct from the

global web of terrorists but they were aligning with and cultivating, whether it was the ira or the iranian revolution or al qaeda. so it doesn't matter what it was, as long as the plo laments the operation to that. and so then success of american administrations kept saving them from oblivion when it forced the tunisian government to accept the that was leading in 1982. bush the first event in 1992 after it had been completely destroyed due to its support for it saddam hussein in the gulf war and then also bill clinton in oslo.

that this has been a bipartisan situation with the idea that the united states had gained something by cultivating an alliance with a terrorist organization for the american clarity of thought and purpose in the middle east. because at the heart of all of this idea is the notion that there is something fundamentally wrong with israel. and this includes a self-sufficient ally. in a way there is a tedious understanding is it is based upon such an utter fallacy that it is fairly clear that you're going to get everything all strong. so the nice thing is that what

it really does is liberates people who hold them for thinking about anything difficult. so who cares about the revolutionary ideology of the iranian regime and cultivation of the muslim brotherhood. and again the establishment of a palestinian state will take about half the impetus in the world, and you don't have to think about anything once you believe in such utter and complete nonsense. as a consequence the united states went blind and to beirut in 1982. they went blind into rock and 2003. they are running blind with the iranians today.

and they overthrew america's most important allies. zhang on behalf of the israeli left, the most amazing thing about the response to the support for hosni mubarak was a cross spectrum and i've never recall seeing such unanimity of opinion about anything ever than the amazement and shock and revulsion of the american decision to ditch him as an ally. everyone thought that they had simply lost their mind. and that was only the beginning. so how do you make a foreign policy such a critical region for american national security that works? well, first of all you have to

formulate a foreign policy that won't get you anywhere good if you're basing it on a lie. and if you base a foreign policy would be good to your friends, people want to be her friend and they won't want to be your enemy. so the revolutionary concept and also tried and true. so i understand completely that america is a long way to the middle east, including some of the bravest most wonderful patriot the we've ever had the honor of meeting in 2003. god bless them all.

and they were 7000 miles from home and i said to one of the guys, what do you think dean here? and they said he thereby defy that here or in boston. and it made sense to me. but it is a long way from home and it certainly makes sense to me if people get tired of being so far away from home. so how do we have this in such a troubled region in a how do you limit if you want to draw this down everywhere. because the less you actually have to do and so a stronger

israel is a more security interest which israel is for the last week and aircraft area and everything that they do it here is to american national purity interest. and by the way come he never have to worry about who is in power and all the israelis are pro-american. so they really want to understand because otherwise the world is impaired. [applause] so i give a lot of reasons and my book why this is good for

israel. and so finally we will be able to defend ourselves as madness is the minds and hearts of so many people related to israel and the jews. and if they would rather be seized with this, at least we can fight them coherently with 1 foot in the air. but from america's perspective, america needs a strong and everyone who cares about this need to carry about it as well. and so the only way that we can do that as we assert this and defend them. so aside from them in the chief

beneficiary of the plan is the united states of america. with that, i will conclude my remarks and be happy to hear questions. [applause] [applause] >> we are going to ask people to line up for questions. >> the rise in anti-israel specifically in the united states, to what extent do you achieve the dead to the decline in absolute terms as well as percentages of the population. as well as a common belief

amongst the jews of this country and that they bought the rhetoric of this. >> i think most of all the american jewish community has become white computers largely as a result of the two state paradigm. when i was growing up in chicago in the 1980s on the non-religious identity was zionism. and that was really replaced in the 1990s and 2000. and this includes what we sought to align. and if you use that as a central guiding notion of what it means

to be jewish, you are negating all jewish history and also ignoring jewish agency as well as we exist because we have chosen to exist with these extraordinary things in order to maintain a. so if the narrative that you are interviewing people at his victimization as opposed to action, that certainly had its consequence and confusion. >> thank you. i heard somewhere that they serve democrats a 51% didn't know that the earth went around the sun. i grew up in a small town in the northeast and all my friends were jewish and my mom's best friend was her wish. a few years back i went home and my mom had something on her desk about how bad the jewish people are treated by the palestinians and she said don't you know if the israelis that are that bad people and i said, wow, and then

she said i got a call from a friend who says their churches a study every year and they saw how terribly they were treated. and it has told them that it is their duty to help the palestinians because they are being wronged and i think that they are there poisoning people and trying to turn the christians in america against that. and i didn't know if you had heard of this steadfast hope then. because i had probably half a dozen people. >> let me just cut to the chase here. yes, there's a serious problem with the subversion of evangelical christians support of the crisis at the checkpoint that they have every year and they really are making inroads like wheaton college has been really subverted by the.

and there's been a lot of things coming. i was actually just wanting some senators about this two weeks ago. there is only one voice out there. so who has justice on their side? we do. but we are not seeing it. and so it's ours and its indivisible and unfortunately we were hoping it would've been. that works out that it is. so we just have to make clear that everyone understands that we are just. >> hello, carolyn. i think you for your inspiring presentation. >> thank you for being here. >> i can give you as a friend, so i would like to ask tougher questions. >> be my guest. >> you are using logic and

reason and law. all of this rational approach. the feedback is either uninformed or part of an irrational world. if there is a one state solution, how would you deal with the oslo accords which would automatically dissolved the palestinian authority. how would you deal with the enormous hate education provided around the world where there are arab muslim refugees. and how would you get rid of all the weapons that are being stockpiled right now. >> those are excellent questions. but the survey data is truly startling. i was embarking on this product

before i understood how startling it is between two thirds to three quarters of the palestinians are the greatest democracy on earth for israel. and apparently familiarity doesn't read contempt but admiration which is extraordinary given what we have been told and i live there and i keep my eye on things pretty closely. and did you know that 59% of palestinians oppose an israeli withdrawal from samaria? 59%. more than the israelis. so the numbers are extraordinary. one of the things that we did when we recognized a terrorist organization, is that we block

them off. we stop looking at them as human beings. so he put them under this and say deal with it. this transformed what had been the most open and free society into a society with the law of the jungle to christians and muslims. everyone lost all of their legal protection and we had all of the economic growth from 1967 through 1996 disappeared. they were at 1% above them from 1967 until 1994. so why would they want to do that? so we found that the more that people cared about politics, the more willing they were to live under palestinian control.

and whether they cared about freedom and their children, the more they wanted to live under israeli control. so i'm not saying that all of them will be absolutely happy and thrilled and cotton candy holding and everything like that. but i think that we are not recognizing how much happiness it would provoke among those are all walks of life throughout the territories and i think it's important to mention that what we are implemented on the ground. when israel tried it's a law, it was different. when we apply this is also different because of judean occupation. here we have shared sovereignty with a government that has

30,000 men under arms. they think that basically what they have to do is just start asserting its authority in dealing with the resistance as it comes out. and calling for congress. in doing so in a very low-key way. so i talk in my book about the possible responses in the larger arab world to apply the laws over the areas. what i do with them as i consider their capabilities as well as their aspirations. and people always point and say this is what part of it and the israeli military control has been there since 2004.

but it wasn't completed until 2004. at this point if they make it to the security front, we failed for five times already. because we have stopped them when they are asleep and we arrest them and that is why we haven't had the suicide bombings in any major way since 2000 or, thank god. so we are already in control, what can we do. but they have the capability of construct thing a catastrophic act of terrorism. but the thing we have to understand about the palestinian security forces isn't really a military organization that has been armed by the u.s. military over the past several years. and it has been so well trained with western